Here's my list.

For team style, or rather, support/assist style, the heroes I'd pick are:

• Geomancer (Trained) [Rusty]
  
• Earthshaker (Trained)
  
• TideHunter (Trained [SUPER Rusty])

For offense style, the heroes I'd pick are:

• Bounty Hunter (Trained)
  
• Pudge (Trained)
  
• Mortred (Imperfect)
  
• Troll (Imperfect)

The heroes that I'm training or thinking of training are:

• Vengeful Spirit [Training begun]
  
• Morphling [Thinking]
  
• Rikimaru [Training begun]

This will be my place for future updates of my line-up heroes and status of my training.
No flaming please, just ideas and POSITIVE comments.

Last edited by 3vilMTV on Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:38 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Tittle changed.)

xDf.BeSimplex is Rikimaru king, sad to inform.
You could play it when he isn't around ;]

No pudges in line-ups I think, the rest are pretty okay.

Note that I did not place pudge in "team-style".

As in you cannot choose pudge as a line-up hero while playing clan matches.

There is no such thing as "cannot" for these.

Well then rephrase: You are not allowed to use Pudge during clan games (I think)

Clan matches don't ban any heroes unless you are playing draft/Extended League/Random Draft.

I am saying no one uses Pudge in clan games.

I'll prove you wrong then.

Its not about you going to play/prove it in clan games, its about its not a suitable hero for a team clan game and no one uses it in real match games. (I think, I have to check)

Its not like i'm some people who prove that I use pudge and then purposely feed and stuff.
And I meant, try to prove that it can be a suitable hero.
By the way, all -ap -apem games are REAL match games to me.

xDfactory, 2 months clan, without any sponser, without any ads, without and officialism, wants to be judging what hero is suitable for games in place of MYM, MouseSports, KingSurf, Sk-Gaming?

Zomg nice ambition

There is practically no such thing as suitable hero for games.
If its not, why do they even make it?
AND, when did i say i am judging in place for them?
This is putting words in other's mouth.

"There is practically no such thing as suitable hero for games."

Not true.
And by the way pudge isn't allowed in xDf in drafts

jh trust me. pudge is dam,useless in drafts imagine a pick being wasted on a stupid pudge and all you can do is bite and rot what can of teamplay are you suggesting there ?unless you can prove me wrong by your pudge getting a guinsoo i think i would reconsider it. and your th is super rusty? im the th already in the team lmao. carry heroes like morph pa troll bh etc are easily ganged imagine getting multiple disables on you before you can even rampage or whack. i know that your bh is good but sometimes it just proves worthless in team battles. and well vs / geo i trust you if you can play these heroes well as they are good team heroes to pick but be warned that geomancer is on the top bans list es is also good choice but needs to be picked early

Last edited by DeadBoYx on Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:50 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : typo)

Very true. After the first draft game we played I remade my hero picks topic, the draft game seriously brought teamplay into reality.

and theres no such thing as offense style defense style its the flow of play and teamwork in the game lmao your offense = farm fat and own. your support = i disable the kill is mine

BlankShot wrote:Very true. After the first draft game we played I remade my hero picks topic, the draft game seriously brought teamplay into reality.

Well, finally.

DeadBoYx wrote:jh trust me. pudge is dam,useless in drafts imagine a pick being wasted on a stupid pudge and all you can do is bite and rot what can of teamplay are you suggesting there ?unless you can prove me wrong by your pudge getting a guinsoo i think i would reconsider it. and your th is super rusty? im the th already in the team lmao. carry heroes like morph pa troll bh etc are easily ganged imagine getting multiple disables on you before you can even rampage or whack. i know that your bh is good but sometimes it just proves worthless in team battles. and well vs / geo i trust you if you can play these heroes well as they are good team heroes to pick but be warned that geomancer is on the top bans list es is also good choice but needs to be picked early

First, if you do not hook to save allies, that's your problem.
Second, did i say I'm going to snatch TH? Please don't talk useless stuff.
Thrid, I agree on the carry part. Point taken.
Lastly, K, understood.

DeadBoYx wrote:and theres no such thing as offense style defense style its the flow of play and teamwork in the game lmao your offense = farm fat and own. your support = i disable the kill is mine

If that is your style, too bad for you then.
Don't flame others for no reason.

LOL joke pudge hook just to asve on ally when you can use that pickc on sth like th/potm where you can save the whole team. for the greater good inexperienced drafter

If that is your style, too bad for you then.
Don't flame others for no reason.

Sorry but that comment has gone out of the question. He is giving constructive criticism, and hes trying to correct your style which is in general slightly off-limits now. Hence my emphasis on strongly encouraging you to view the replay.

Other than that, Clement you might fare better if you layout your posts a little bit neater and nicer that doesn't look so sloppy then maybe it'll be better in terms of processing and responding.

Good luck on whatever heroes you're gonna train ;]
@Hook, it seriously isn't worth.

Notice this.
"your offense = farm fat and own. your support = i disable the kill is mine"
Its not even near to constructive.
Second, this is flaming without reason.

Merely stating you offense style and your support style isn't flaming.

)) define:flaming
)) Flaming is the hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users.

@Constructive
)) Read before saying what I said is wrong, I said constructive criticism

Definition of Inconstructive Feedback/Criticism

Unconstructive feedback is counter-productive because it won't help an author improve their work. Remember, negative feedback is not necessarily unconstructive feedback - you can still give negative feedback (and you should, if you don't like something), provided it exhibits constructive qualities.

He did exhibit constructive qualities by reasoning on why offence/defence is useless since we need teamplay and team work.
As a humble player/artist (as a general term), you should always follow the rules of a good author of anything [When an author submits work, your feedback on it will influence their future work and their development as an artist.]

Cheeries
Blank :]

laughing my fcuking ass out at that. i dont flame without reason i flame with a reason
reflect on how you play dota
reflect on how much teamplay were you involved with
reflect on how does teamplay in dota even works
offense= farm fat and own ( take a good look at heroes you picked for yourself if they dont farm fat how they own o.o)
support = disable thats my kill( supporting without a complaint but from what i see is geo a support o.o geo is suppose to carry and well es is a good pick but from wad i see from you playing es is that you aim for the kills ^^ not for the support.i doubt you would be the one to blink in and ulti 1st =D tidehunter is mine no questions asked.

DeadBoYx wrote:laughing my fcuking ass out at that. i dont flame without reason i flame with a reason
reflect on how you play dota
reflect on how much teamplay were you involved with
reflect on how does teamplay in dota even works
offense= farm fat and own ( take a good look at heroes you picked for yourself if they dont farm fat how they own o.o)
support = disable thats my kill( supporting without a complaint but from what i see is geo a support o.o geo is suppose to carry and well es is a good pick but from wad i see from you playing es is that you aim for the kills ^^ not for the support.i doubt you would be the one to blink in and ulti 1st =D tidehunter is mine no questions asked.

Well NOW then the reasons come out.

>"offense= farm fat and own ( take a good look at heroes you picked for yourself if they dont farm fat how they own o.o) "
Notice I do not get a main for drafting at the moment.
I'm training not for specialization at the moment, but to catch up with basic dota skills.
AND, I've never asked for me to own, I've never asked others to give me kills that is obviously not mine.

>"support = disable thats my kill( supporting without a complaint but from what i see is geo a support o.o geo is suppose to carry"
Geo can be hybird. O.o
You can use net to stop lycan OR you can use geostrike to slow others.
But currently my style is obviously offense for Geo as I max Poof first.

>"well es is a good pick but from wad i see from you playing es is that you aim for the kills ^^ not for the support.i doubt you would be the one to blink in and ulti 1st"
Yep, I'd fissure first.
Why waste my ulti?
Might as well wait for more people(allies) to enter the area during the fissure's stun time and then max the ulti's potential.

lmao es is suppose to ulti 1st dude if not you cant land the best potential in a gang

geo cant be a hybrid in a draft it MUST carry geo has the highest potential of owning besides lycan is rarely chosen drafts lmao.

DeadBoYx wrote:lmao es is suppose to ulti 1st dude if not you cant land the best potential in a gang

Best potential is maximum damage/support.
In which this case is damage.
If you ulti first (say, you blink in before your allies arrive), like duh, you will have less damage compared to with your allies around.
Fissure them first to give time for your allies to reach and then ulti.
Corpses add to echo as well i think.

One point on that comment, es never fissures first for max potential.
ES echo slams and then fissure, for maximum potential.

Why so?
I meant fissure to give time for allies to arrive at scene.

why would you want to do that if its a gank. unless your dumb enough of to engage before your allies. and duh if you fissure ttheres a chance that some creeps would die which = to lost dmg in echoslam after that

Echo hits corpses too if i'm not wrong.